pns27
05-13 05:49 PM
Why cant you guys understand, we have no right to demand.
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
You are making up things here; Eb1->Eb2->Eb3 is correct only from education and experience for the Job point of view but not true from Quota point of view.
�The argument that Eb1 is preferred above Eb2 and BE2 is preferred over EB3 is absurd.
The regular yearly BE quota is distributed equally among all three categories, so then why they should not follow the same distribution for the overflow numbers?
Said that all BE3 applicants who are eligible should port there PD to EB2. Simple, when you know how the system works try to adapt to it.�
We don�t know the system when we filed our CGs, we just trusted out attorneys. If we have to do this CG stuff again most of us will do it differently.
Remember one more thing, one may be EB2 can still be less qualified and less experienced then an EB3 as EB criteria is for the Job not for the person.
PNS27
PD: EB3 June 2002
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
You are making up things here; Eb1->Eb2->Eb3 is correct only from education and experience for the Job point of view but not true from Quota point of view.
�The argument that Eb1 is preferred above Eb2 and BE2 is preferred over EB3 is absurd.
The regular yearly BE quota is distributed equally among all three categories, so then why they should not follow the same distribution for the overflow numbers?
Said that all BE3 applicants who are eligible should port there PD to EB2. Simple, when you know how the system works try to adapt to it.�
We don�t know the system when we filed our CGs, we just trusted out attorneys. If we have to do this CG stuff again most of us will do it differently.
Remember one more thing, one may be EB2 can still be less qualified and less experienced then an EB3 as EB criteria is for the Job not for the person.
PNS27
PD: EB3 June 2002
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ratsek
09-21 01:44 PM
I applied and waiting to hear from USCIS. I shall post when I hear from them. :)
Did you get any response from USCIS? Is it worth trying?
Did you get any response from USCIS? Is it worth trying?
gc_mania_03
10-14 04:32 PM
Applied for AP on June 1 at NSC. NO LUD changes till about last week.
I contacted USCIS and had an expedite request put in. Worked with USCIS ombudsman to figure out what was happening. Worked with my State Senator's office to put some heat on USCIS. After all the above efforts, finally got mine & My spouse's AP approved yesterday.(Oct 13). Total of 134 long days since i applied for my AP.
NSC is notorious for being late and lackadaiscal. I advice ppl to step in and take your cases to Ombudsman & Senators. They tend to be lot more helpful than USCIS. Good luck
How do I work with the Ombudsman? And all could you share how you went about getting the help from the Senators office.
I contacted USCIS and had an expedite request put in. Worked with USCIS ombudsman to figure out what was happening. Worked with my State Senator's office to put some heat on USCIS. After all the above efforts, finally got mine & My spouse's AP approved yesterday.(Oct 13). Total of 134 long days since i applied for my AP.
NSC is notorious for being late and lackadaiscal. I advice ppl to step in and take your cases to Ombudsman & Senators. They tend to be lot more helpful than USCIS. Good luck
How do I work with the Ombudsman? And all could you share how you went about getting the help from the Senators office.
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ars01
07-09 01:32 PM
Popoye,
You have a little tricky situation at hand, but you'll be okay if what you wrote is true - Your employer will not revoke your pending I-140. Not only that, they have to be nice enough to respond to any RFEs that come for your case. they can state that the imimgration application they filed for you is for a future position.
Also, USCIS has a guideline about these cases. They are supposed to see if your I-140 was 'approvable' if it had been adjudicated within 180 days or before you leave the company, which I think it should be.
I understand there are some anxious days ahead for you, but If I had to bet, I would bet on successful result of your case in the end :).
Just make sure that your old employer doesn't revoke your I-140
BTW, when was your I-140 filed?
cheers
The following is copied directly from a USCIS memorandum:
"If the Form I-140 (�immigrant petition�) has been approved and the Form I-485
(�adjustment application�) has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more (as measured from the Form I-485 receipt date), the approved Form I-140 will remain valid even if the alien changes jobs or employers as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupation.1 If the Form I-485 has been pending for less than 180 days, then the approved Form I-140 shall not remain valid with respect to a new offer of employment."
Looks like I-140 must be approved to use AC-21.
You have a little tricky situation at hand, but you'll be okay if what you wrote is true - Your employer will not revoke your pending I-140. Not only that, they have to be nice enough to respond to any RFEs that come for your case. they can state that the imimgration application they filed for you is for a future position.
Also, USCIS has a guideline about these cases. They are supposed to see if your I-140 was 'approvable' if it had been adjudicated within 180 days or before you leave the company, which I think it should be.
I understand there are some anxious days ahead for you, but If I had to bet, I would bet on successful result of your case in the end :).
Just make sure that your old employer doesn't revoke your I-140
BTW, when was your I-140 filed?
cheers
The following is copied directly from a USCIS memorandum:
"If the Form I-140 (�immigrant petition�) has been approved and the Form I-485
(�adjustment application�) has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more (as measured from the Form I-485 receipt date), the approved Form I-140 will remain valid even if the alien changes jobs or employers as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupation.1 If the Form I-485 has been pending for less than 180 days, then the approved Form I-140 shall not remain valid with respect to a new offer of employment."
Looks like I-140 must be approved to use AC-21.
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belmontboy
01-15 04:03 PM
When I posted that reply I didn't for once think it could be taken as anything other than a joke! If you are going through a debate in your mind whether its a joke or not, then I will have to revisit what I wrote to see what it is I am missing :)
:D thanks for clarifying, i was planning to shoot you :D
:D thanks for clarifying, i was planning to shoot you :D
snathan
03-15 10:58 PM
�He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.� - Christ, in John 8:7
Comtting a crime and trying to blame it on others for that....
is that what you are supporting?
Comtting a crime and trying to blame it on others for that....
is that what you are supporting?
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gc_check
02-24 12:23 PM
Folks,
Need ur participation... I'm not an active member, but have done my part.
As you all know the famous saying, "Make hay when the sun shines", we have to act on right time to succeeed in our efforts. I see 800+ registered members.. Counting atleast $100 each, we should atleast be close to 50% of the target.. but it not the case here, Most of us have been in this country for years and also are planning to make this our home... Contributing $100, should not be a big deal.. Folks please join hands together... and help the folks who are actively working on this... .
Also each of us, already members in the group, atleast should try to get minimum one new member to this groups within next week time, we should be able to increase the membership rate dramatically and the contributions too....
"United We Stand"
Need ur participation... I'm not an active member, but have done my part.
As you all know the famous saying, "Make hay when the sun shines", we have to act on right time to succeeed in our efforts. I see 800+ registered members.. Counting atleast $100 each, we should atleast be close to 50% of the target.. but it not the case here, Most of us have been in this country for years and also are planning to make this our home... Contributing $100, should not be a big deal.. Folks please join hands together... and help the folks who are actively working on this... .
Also each of us, already members in the group, atleast should try to get minimum one new member to this groups within next week time, we should be able to increase the membership rate dramatically and the contributions too....
"United We Stand"
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saimrathi
07-10 09:25 AM
Yup, Gandhigiri will work.. We have lots of time in our hands.. British enjoyed their 300 year stay in India.. Lets enjoy our stay in US also.. at the hands of our employers, lawyers etc.. :o
Lets not hope for results just act. If Gandhi could drive Britishers out of India using this approach, USCIS is also made of human people and sure they will do something to lessen our pains.
Lets not hope for results just act. If Gandhi could drive Britishers out of India using this approach, USCIS is also made of human people and sure they will do something to lessen our pains.
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sammyb
10-12 04:56 PM
are you joining us?!
won't be able to join today ... lets update the thread about how it goes ...
won't be able to join today ... lets update the thread about how it goes ...
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styrum
02-08 11:55 AM
Who said the position must be in zone V only to qualify for EB2?
For the position to be qualified for EB2 it must require MS. For position requirements to be considered "normal", they must fit into the respective zone in terms of SVP level. As I learned from my bitter experience, though offficially for a PERM to be approved the requirements don't have to be "normal" (if they are not, you just need to supply the "business neccessity" letter), it looks like the current PERM's software just doesn't have such possibility "in mind" and automatically denies the application if the total education plus experience requirements exceed the SVP level for the zone corresponding to the position. You will get a denial notice which will blatantly claim something like "By answering YES to question H-12 you have attested that the requirements are normal, but the total SVP level exceeds the normal level for this position..." even if you have answered NO to that damn question! Therefore I don't recommend to exceed "normal" SVP level for the corresponding position code.
However, if a suitable code falls under zone IV, nobody (except for emplyer himself maybe) can prevent the employer to require, say, MS plus 2 yrs of experience. And it is within "normal" SVP level for zone IV, and it does qualify for EB2 (because it requires MS).
For the position to be qualified for EB2 it must require MS. For position requirements to be considered "normal", they must fit into the respective zone in terms of SVP level. As I learned from my bitter experience, though offficially for a PERM to be approved the requirements don't have to be "normal" (if they are not, you just need to supply the "business neccessity" letter), it looks like the current PERM's software just doesn't have such possibility "in mind" and automatically denies the application if the total education plus experience requirements exceed the SVP level for the zone corresponding to the position. You will get a denial notice which will blatantly claim something like "By answering YES to question H-12 you have attested that the requirements are normal, but the total SVP level exceeds the normal level for this position..." even if you have answered NO to that damn question! Therefore I don't recommend to exceed "normal" SVP level for the corresponding position code.
However, if a suitable code falls under zone IV, nobody (except for emplyer himself maybe) can prevent the employer to require, say, MS plus 2 yrs of experience. And it is within "normal" SVP level for zone IV, and it does qualify for EB2 (because it requires MS).
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mpadapa
10-09 09:24 PM
Hope there are at least 50 people for the meet:D
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thomachan72
05-24 12:02 PM
in the long run, it is going to be extremely BAD/HARD for skilled immigrants..
I couldn't confirm it but from what I understand, the dual intent will no longer be valid on H1 ie A H1-B holder cannot have an immigrant intent. Does that mean, they cannot file for a GC, while on H1? Also, as consulting would be severely restricted, how many of the H1s will be able to find Full-Time Jobs?
As we read more into the Bill, the 'hidden' intent is becoming clear..
Restrictions & more Restrictions..
My dear friend this statement that you made is BS. Pls read the bill draft carefully, actually they have added dual intent to even F1 in some catagories. They have not taken dual intent off H1b visas. Our major killer is however the restrictions imposed for extension beyond 6 years. We need the employer's recomendation + >365 days pending 140. I dont know whether one of these would suffice or whether both would be needed??? Otherwise it looks not VERY bad, but bad.
I couldn't confirm it but from what I understand, the dual intent will no longer be valid on H1 ie A H1-B holder cannot have an immigrant intent. Does that mean, they cannot file for a GC, while on H1? Also, as consulting would be severely restricted, how many of the H1s will be able to find Full-Time Jobs?
As we read more into the Bill, the 'hidden' intent is becoming clear..
Restrictions & more Restrictions..
My dear friend this statement that you made is BS. Pls read the bill draft carefully, actually they have added dual intent to even F1 in some catagories. They have not taken dual intent off H1b visas. Our major killer is however the restrictions imposed for extension beyond 6 years. We need the employer's recomendation + >365 days pending 140. I dont know whether one of these would suffice or whether both would be needed??? Otherwise it looks not VERY bad, but bad.
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logiclife
01-20 07:57 PM
You can use paypal now. The problem is fixed.
Even if you dont have paypal account, paypal site provides facility to receive funds using a credit/debit card without having to open a paypal account.
You can also mail the check to the address shown in "Why Contribute" and under "Contributions" menu.
--Logiclife.
Even if you dont have paypal account, paypal site provides facility to receive funds using a credit/debit card without having to open a paypal account.
You can also mail the check to the address shown in "Why Contribute" and under "Contributions" menu.
--Logiclife.
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jungalee43
09-23 10:00 AM
My calls are continuing. Called all the Ds and a few Rs and I will finish calling the remaining Rs in another one hour. And this is my third round of calls.
Rep. Howard Coble's (R-NC) office would not listen to you if you are not from his district. I still insisted that my support for the bill should be noted.
I have still not updated the poll.
Rep. Howard Coble's (R-NC) office would not listen to you if you are not from his district. I still insisted that my support for the bill should be noted.
I have still not updated the poll.
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walking_dude
12-12 10:42 AM
Larry King will cover us if his CNN buddy Lou Dobbs lets him !
I have watched it a couple of time, though not a regular. No chance of getting there unless you are celeb fresh out of rehab and/or facing midlife crisis, divorce etc., or a US political bigwig.
We are none of the above.
Looks like we need to catch hold �Larry King�. If we can project our Green Card issue through 'Larry King', then it would easily catch US National attention.
Can some one throw ideas on this please?.
I have watched it a couple of time, though not a regular. No chance of getting there unless you are celeb fresh out of rehab and/or facing midlife crisis, divorce etc., or a US political bigwig.
We are none of the above.
Looks like we need to catch hold �Larry King�. If we can project our Green Card issue through 'Larry King', then it would easily catch US National attention.
Can some one throw ideas on this please?.
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Madhuri
05-29 02:29 PM
This is exactly what I thought when one of my son's friend was working very hard on spelling bee and needless to say he reached the topmost level in that event. As a parent I fail to understand why championing the spelling bee is of such a great importance for a child's all-round growth.
This whole spelling bee thing is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. By any standards, it is pure and simple torture to subject the kids to memorizing thousands of words and their stupid spellings. And what use is that? Have they never heard of something called SPELL-CHECK in Microsoft Word and other email services ?
Or are they afraid that their kid will go to a job interview and someone might ask them to spell the word that no one on the planet ever uses and is only present in the Oxford Dictionary.
Those who subject their kids to such a regimented, rigorous, scripted childhood are preparing a next generation of work-force that would only know how to follow the orders and accept directions.
85 % of the fortune 500 CEOs are not MBAs. And the other 15% that have an MBA, only 3 of the 15 have done MBA from an IVY LEAGUE school.
What that tells you is that too much education and scholarly childhood increases your job security, in that sense that you will never be unemployed, but it decreases the chances that you will be on the top or you will be a billionaire.
The biggest prize goes NOT TO people who can follow directions and know everything, but who can GIVE directions and get things done.
This whole spelling bee thing is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. By any standards, it is pure and simple torture to subject the kids to memorizing thousands of words and their stupid spellings. And what use is that? Have they never heard of something called SPELL-CHECK in Microsoft Word and other email services ?
Or are they afraid that their kid will go to a job interview and someone might ask them to spell the word that no one on the planet ever uses and is only present in the Oxford Dictionary.
Those who subject their kids to such a regimented, rigorous, scripted childhood are preparing a next generation of work-force that would only know how to follow the orders and accept directions.
85 % of the fortune 500 CEOs are not MBAs. And the other 15% that have an MBA, only 3 of the 15 have done MBA from an IVY LEAGUE school.
What that tells you is that too much education and scholarly childhood increases your job security, in that sense that you will never be unemployed, but it decreases the chances that you will be on the top or you will be a billionaire.
The biggest prize goes NOT TO people who can follow directions and know everything, but who can GIVE directions and get things done.
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10-11 01:37 PM
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dummgelauft
03-17 11:35 AM
Call yourself a shoplifter, but you are really a petty criminal. You have yourself proved so by pleading guilty.
I am surprised that you have not been deported. It people like you who bring a bad name to the whole Indian immigrant community.
Far as I am concerned, unless you hae situation of life and death, you must not steal. The only other scenario, where theft could be pardoned is if you are out of work, have no money, have no friends who would help you, have been turned out by the local soup kitchen and the food bank, and have starving children at home and you decide to pich a loaf of brad from a store
Other than that, no excuse.
I am surprised that you have not been deported. It people like you who bring a bad name to the whole Indian immigrant community.
Far as I am concerned, unless you hae situation of life and death, you must not steal. The only other scenario, where theft could be pardoned is if you are out of work, have no money, have no friends who would help you, have been turned out by the local soup kitchen and the food bank, and have starving children at home and you decide to pich a loaf of brad from a store
Other than that, no excuse.
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485Mbe4001
04-16 12:29 PM
i guess the people who are on the fence, thinking, if US doesnt work out i can easily go back to my home country.
(non indians please ignore this part - due apologies)
- desis who spent the formative years of their life here doing -- desigiri-- saved some money to go back, only to find that the money saved is not worth that much anymore.;)
That is life...if you factor in the inflation rate to your 20.8 lakhs...you will realise that it would have been better if you had at least 'enjoyed' your stay here instead of trying to increase the national savings rate.
Maybe now spending that $20 on IV might not sound that bad...after all, these days, its not much in rupees too...2wadas and one chai, thats about it, my friends :mad:
(non indians please ignore this part - due apologies)
- desis who spent the formative years of their life here doing -- desigiri-- saved some money to go back, only to find that the money saved is not worth that much anymore.;)
That is life...if you factor in the inflation rate to your 20.8 lakhs...you will realise that it would have been better if you had at least 'enjoyed' your stay here instead of trying to increase the national savings rate.
Maybe now spending that $20 on IV might not sound that bad...after all, these days, its not much in rupees too...2wadas and one chai, thats about it, my friends :mad:
nashorn
12-17 11:47 AM
I have sold some items in eBay in the past, If I rememver correctly, when I sold something for $10 and the buyer made a paypal payment, paypal too $1.5 as fees.
So if you are making $20, only $17 goes to IV, IF the amount is >=50 I believe the fees is much lesser (like 5%) so more money goes to IV instead of making paypal rich.
How about check? 100% goes to IV.
So if you are making $20, only $17 goes to IV, IF the amount is >=50 I believe the fees is much lesser (like 5%) so more money goes to IV instead of making paypal rich.
How about check? 100% goes to IV.
priderock
06-18 03:34 PM
I totally agree..
If to get EAD and AP going to take more then year then what is advantage of VB becoming current?
At least you can get EAD in a YEAR as against Don't know.
Can use AC21 after 180 days.
You are in a queue instead of outside the gate , hoping to get in to the queue.
But I think they must (and probably will) do some thing do clear EADs sooner then a year.
If to get EAD and AP going to take more then year then what is advantage of VB becoming current?
At least you can get EAD in a YEAR as against Don't know.
Can use AC21 after 180 days.
You are in a queue instead of outside the gate , hoping to get in to the queue.
But I think they must (and probably will) do some thing do clear EADs sooner then a year.
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